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« on: February 18, 2011, 07:32:41 AM »

Wasn't sure which forum is appropriate for this thread, but it seems this one fits.

Yesterday, the temperature reached the 70s and  I went to nearby St. John’s County Fish Pier to see if the water warmed up enough to catch some fish. It was only 53F and there were very few people on the pier. When the water is warm it’s hard to find a place along the long pier to cast out your line.

But it’s an aspect of photography, not fishing, that I want to discuss. As the title hints the type of photos I took on the pier were all shot “blind.”  I do have a serious eye problem in my right eye (a hole in the macula), but that has nothing to do with the blind shooting I did on the pier.

I have to admit up front that I never understood why people would go out of their way to purposely use cameras that have built in defects when bought new so they can get unexpected results, e.g. Holga, Lomo.  Perhaps, one of the reasons why the f64 group started was to reject all kinds of tricks that were used to make artistic photographs that supposedly looked more like painting.  One artistic technique was to smear some Vasoline, if invented then, on the lens. f64 photographers abhorred tricks and strove for clear, sharp images.

In my case, I wasn’t trying to handicap myself , but the only camera I had with me on the pier was a Lumix DCM-LS75. It has a wonderful lens and everything works as designed, but it has no viewfinder. Outside on a sunny day, seeing anything on the screen is nearly impossible for me. AFAIK, no sun shield was designed for this model. All I can see when the sun is out is a very blurred image. Using my Red Sox cap’s bill to throw some shade on the monitor and with my good eye almost touching the glass, I see a hint of an image.

But the light was good, very few people were on the pier and just enough birds to offer lots of possibilities even with my cycloptic vision. So I steeled myself for a photo shoot. I pointed the camera in the direction that looked interesting and either used the zoom at max position of wide or tele, and fired away.

What is surprising is half these photos have not been cropped. Take a peek at blind digital shooting without a viewfinder. It sure surprised me.

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Note: I do have two other digicams both with viewfinders: Pete Lutz’s former Oly Camedia C4000Z and Captain Slack's former Pentax K10D, but not with me at the pier.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 08:02:11 AM »

And this proves what I have always known. Photography is about feel not sight. Excellent.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 08:37:46 AM »

Absolute proof that you are a photograffik GEEN-yuss!  Marvelous stuff, Les.  I love all of your seagull pics best, and I left a comment on one of them at flickr.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 09:18:52 AM »

Makes you wonder if something like the wire finder on an old Graphic isn't the right idea for some kinds of shooting. Makes it easier to really look at what you're capturing, rather than its representation in an imperfect viewfinder. Good food for thought.

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 09:21:05 AM »

Les, I've got a Panasonic TZ-3 that I put a hood on, but the screen is so reflective, most of the time I'm just shooting by feel, or watching over the top of the camera to see when a subject comes into the viewing area.  It's a great technique to learn, especially when you want to be unobtrusive.  And it's why I got back into shooting film, so I could have a viewfinder to look through.  

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 11:38:47 AM »

Well Les, now you can sell all of your cameras with viewfinders, right?!
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Not to be a stick-in-the-mud, and your compositions are quite good, but personally, I really like to see the frame from the inside.

Photographing blind, for me would result in frustration, images that are off balance, maybe out of focus and take the joy of composition and living on the edge (as to focus) away from me. It may work well for landscpaes but I'd wager less so for macro and people work.

There is no one right answer, really. Whatever works, works.

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 11:45:54 AM »

LOL Mark

 You sound like a speech I heard at the U.N..
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 12:59:29 PM »

Pretty damned good, Les!
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 01:52:24 PM »

LOL Mark

 You sound like a speech I heard at the U.N..

Oh, if I ruled the world...

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 01:59:21 PM »

Well your rule would only be for a short time as hidden in the hearts of all me is the Tea Party. :-)

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley .
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »

Thanks to all of you who responded.

In case anyone thought I'm off to buy a Holga or will repeat this procedure, on purpose, rest assured I don't plan to, at all. It's tough enough to frame a good composition that carries through to the final image without cropping. Why add some unpredictable awful effects? I just got lucky, however, I see no shame in cropping and I do a lot of it to tighten my compositions.

I used the technique Phil mentioned of looking intently at what looked right at the moment and hoped I got what I saw.  Many times I didn't and dumped them, but I got a surprising amount of decent ones. Btw, I will add shortly a few more photo from my blind session, the ones Claudia didn't like because the subjects looked so small, but I liked them.

Thanks all for your compliments and/or general comments.  
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 03:00:35 PM »

You should get a Holga. And the view finder does work on it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 10:12:06 PM »

Lesged:

Those are fine photos, anyway you look at them.  Could it be that you knew what to look for so the camera saw it?  I enjoyed seeing them.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 06:39:22 AM »

It is hard to get those even with a good viewfinder! 

I wonder if some day there may be a waist-level-finder digital camera.  I'd buy one if it looks like a Hasselblad.  :cool:
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011, 02:18:37 PM »


I wonder if some day there may be a waist-level-finder digital camera.  I'd buy one if it looks like a Hasselblad.  :cool:

Julio, I am in the market for a new DSLR and just last night was wondering the same thing!

If In  could get a bright 2x2" 100% viewfinder they could just give me a tiny screen to varify my exposre is correct, I'd be happy, so happy!
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