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Kalkadan
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« on: June 27, 2011, 09:56:18 PM »

The quality of these exposures is remarkable.  Sure they are compressed - only a bit bigger than a contact sheet - but the tones and the clarity are so satisfying.

Some of you may have already seen them in a link posted in another site (I think it was RFF last week).  I suppose Isopan F was a slow speed film, but Wow.

And these guys would not have heard of TTL exposure, which is just as well obviously.  There is a luminosity about them that I have not been able to achieve, and I so want to get to that point !!!

P.S.  it seemed that Technical was where this should be posted but I'm not sure.
P.P.S.  I guess this is what a new, clean Elmar 50 could do in its day ...





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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 03:55:28 AM »

Very nice. I guess it should be no surprise to those of us who use these cameras that they could achieve these results with the right film. :cool: I like the smile on the enlisted man (Feldwebel), the camaraderie of friends is apparent. I hope his chute opened.

Aircraft buffs - what twin engine aircraft is that? The best guess I can come up with is Focke-Wulf FW-189
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 05:17:19 AM »

It's a FW-189 for sure.  http://aircraft-list.com/db/Focke-Wulf_Fw_189/91/

Agfa Isopan F was 17 DIN, I think.  Around 25 ASA?

Those are superb, rich images. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 03:22:30 AM »

The germans had access to the best lenses at that time and were leading the rest of the world in technology.Those pics are very well preserved.Excellent examples of superior equipment.Ron G
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 06:40:46 AM »

The germans had access to the best lenses at that time and were leading the rest of the world in technology.Those pics are very well preserved.Excellent examples of superior equipment.Ron G
of course.vot else did you zink ve had.....schtuff zat vos made in China? Nein nein....only ze best ...

'Made in Germany' generally always has been a mark of superiority.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2011, 09:45:50 AM »

In Copenhagen in 1955, I bought my first Leica a brand new IIF RD in its lovely red velvetine covered box. The lens was a Leitz factory reconditioned Summitar 50/2 coated lens. Whether it was originally a coated lens, or they coated it for the first time during its refurbishing, I don't kbnow.

BTW, a new Leica body with registration papers made me eligible for the monthly or seasonal free Leica magazine. The subscription seamlessly transferred to the USA, when I returned to the USA. They sent it gratisfor several years,

The very first film I bought for my Leica was Agfa Isopan F which was 17 DIN, but later I used Agfa Isopan FF that was 13-14 DIN. I souped it in D76 stock solution..I have contact sheets processed commercially by small photo shop in Copenhagen that I have scanned that yield splendid enlargements with beautiful tones. Granted the Summitar was a notch above the Elmar, but I'm sure the latter would also give  extra nice results. I actually have some of the original contact strips cut from full sheet. I'll look for some examples and post them . I have some of Italian and Finnish soldiers to keep it close to the subject of this thread.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 03:58:05 PM »

Here is what I promised:

35mm Agfa Isopan F photos taken with my brand new Leica IIf with 50/2 Summitar in Copenhagen in 1955. The two pics were scanned from contact sheet. Film was commercially process, but I made my own contact sheet.







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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2011, 05:22:52 PM »

Life,History and different days.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2011, 06:04:27 PM »

Life,History and different days.
they were indeed.
i was growing up in central germany in the early 70's and it was a totally different time. i still can remember smell of the city of Duisburg,where we were living,the forests the rhine/ruhr valley.and quite often it did not look dissimilar to some of the  photos Les has published. Amazing how things come back to you.
and thanks to you old guys....errr...more mature guys for publishing these photos..
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 03:32:59 AM »

Kalle - "'Made in Germany' generally always has been a mark of superiority" - at that point I just knew, don't ask me how  :cool:, that you were born in Germany ...

Les - I am so happy that this caused you to post those photos and share those experiences with us.  I have just hauled out the M4 and calculated from the dial on the back that 17 DIN is about 40 ASA - mein Gott !!  How did you guys do it?  I have been wandering around town today (sunday) with Anne and the IIIf loaded with 100 ISO Provia and running an experiment on the 1932 Elmar 50 at max aperture of f3.5 - even at that aperture I was down to 1/15 and 1/10 at times and 1/25 was common.  You fellas in the 1950s in leaden European skies must have had very steady hands!

Have you any more to show us?

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 03:45:06 AM »

Here is a link to many pictures that I took while I did my TOD in the Army while stationed at Downs Barracks in Fulda Germany with the 58th Engineers in the early '60s.
I almost always used tri-x 400 asa film and developed and printed them in the serrvice club photo lab on base.I bought my Voigtlander Vito CL there in 1961 so these pics were taken until the end of '62 when I left for my discharge.
I scanned these into the computer before I was really ready to do it properly,I may do it again if I live long enough.
I am not really posting these looking for any staements regarding quality or the lack of it although I do not mind comments but these are more for the digestion of those who may find them interesting.Ron G
http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?10911-Some-old-TD-18-pics-from-my-Army-days.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 03:53:11 AM »

Kalle - "'Made in Germany' generally always has been a mark of superiority" - at that point I just knew, don't ask me how  :cool:, that you were born in Germany ...


sorry dan, i was not born in germany, but made under Licence in Adelaide,S.A.  :p ....but we do have a huge populace of german Ex-Pats.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 05:07:18 AM »

Life,History and different days.
they were indeed.
i was growing up in central germany in the early 70's and it was a totally different time. i still can remember smell of the city of Duisburg,where we were living,the forests the rhine/ruhr valley.and quite often it did not look dissimilar to some of the  photos Les has published. Amazing how things come back to you.
and thanks to you old guys....errr...more mature guys for publishing these photos..

Small world - did you know that I lived in Duisburg for a year? Dellplatz 7 if you want to see where my ole' pad was (a student residence)
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 01:20:59 PM »


Small world - did you know that I lived in Duisburg for a year? Dellplatz 7 if you want to see where my ole' pad was (a student residence)

small world indeed. i lived about 5 minutes walk from the Kaiserberg. Gustav Freitag Strasse.
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