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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2005, 07:36:54 AM » |
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Kirk,
I am not a big expert but I like to work a lot and think hard about framing and composition, so that is my point of view for the comments you request.
I like the first one better, although it suffers a bit IMO from the male player's dark mass at the right which is not easily decoded. A crop of the right portion could maybe improve that image.
The idea of showing the bowler off focus, in full movement, with a dark foreground object in sharp focus is a good one. The lines of the bowling aisle (is that the word) lead nicely to the bowler from the left. Also I like the tonalities and, obviously, these shots show a good command of the technical factors.
As for suggestions: in these compositions inevitably the main subject is the bowler. I would therefore make sure that the bowler is showed in full, even if off focus. Or, if cropped, intentionally so. It may also help to try to catch a foreground object more easily identifiable with the game, or maybe an interesting shape to provide a better balance with the bowler. I would try to avoid catching that line of lights up (or maybe crop them), they distract a bit.
I find these three posts very interesting images, it shows a desire to do something different. Keep it up.
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sandeha
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 08:12:50 AM » |
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These make an interesting series - I'd go for #2 as the most successful, though #1 catches a nice moment. As Julio says, there are details to watch out for in composing, though for me it's the horizon - it's so close to horizontal that it feels as though it really should be horizontal and square. If you want it off-beam, then way off might work better. Definitely done with style.
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KirkT
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 08:36:11 AM » |
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What!? It's perfect and you all suck!
Just kidding. Thanks for the suggestions. My biggest problem with the Praktica is keeping the horizon due to the small WLF. I prefer the WLF, but that's the draw-back. Seems all of mine from this camera are that way.
All-in-all, great suggestions; thanks and thanks for taking the time to critique.
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sandeha
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 09:26:01 AM » |
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Kirk, I sympathise. I've been making extra efforts with the horizon thingie in the WLF, sort of 'final check' status, but also really leaning down on the neck strap helps a lot. It's one camera (35mm and 135mm lenses) where I don't want to use a tripod. Unfortunately, I pretty much had to bin a roll due to my bad development (Trix+hot Rodinal=porridge grain), but I'm hoping the next will be better ...
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 12:38:23 PM » |
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Kirk, I like what you've done. The images of the bowling balls is a slight distraction, and you might consider cropping it. I feel the first is somewhat stronger, though the figure on the right could be cropped somewhat because it tends to take away from the otherwise nice composition here.
I also agree that you should straighten the horizon during printing or when your performing post-scan corrections (toning, etc.).
Otherwise, I really think you've done a very nice job of presenting a fresh look at a difficult subject matter (bowling). I thought about how I might shoot this, and I like that the subject isn't in focus. Great timing too.
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Julio1fer
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 12:57:32 PM » |
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Kirk, Sandeha's suggestion is a good one. A diagonal horizon is OK if it is diagonal enough. It will give energy to the composition. Try it.
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mdcarma
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005, 02:37:23 PM » |
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Awkard to do with a TLR.  |
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ImageMaker
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2005, 03:45:50 PM » |
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Those aren't hard to do at all, Mike -- focus the usual way, then open the sports finder and use it to compose.
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Julio1fer
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2005, 04:18:12 PM » |
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My second language betrays me. I meant "inclined", not "diagonal". Excuses.
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mdcarma
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2005, 04:36:56 PM » |
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I was only goofing off Julio, your command of a second language is better than my grasp of an only language.. :mrgreen:
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2005, 05:40:02 PM » |
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My 2cents: Number 2 is great. Enjoy the use of dof - not what I'd expect, and makes the image fun. Nice work!
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Julio1fer
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2005, 05:32:44 AM » |
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Goofing is graciously accepted, mdcarma! just wanted to say what I meant... BTW that diagonal shot is dizzying!
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KirkT
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2005, 07:03:29 AM » |
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I can, and usually do, diagonal shots like that, mdcarma. However, it's usually on my way to the ground after too much bourbon.  |
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