The 'un-love' of b/w

[Jadedoto]

I've tried TMY in D76, Ilfosol S, Xtol and I still can't get it to work out. I've shot it at different speeds, developed in different agitations/times/dilutions, and I am just about ready to kick it out the door. Not to mention I think the grain structure in Tab films is disgusting, once you get it visible. And when it's not there, it just seems to punchy and contrasty and sharp.

I love APX 100 though... and Tri-X. Can't go wrong with those.

[Don Day]

I've been using the JandC Efke 70mm film to reload my 1A cameras, but had been pretty unhappy with the consistently low contrast I was getting with D-76, which has been my mainstay for other films. I tried a batch using HC110 dilution H at about 11 minutes, and Wow! I got the snap and range I had been missing all along with D-76.  I'll reset now to the combination that works.  Go figure.

[wlewisiii]

Interesting thread. I dislike all of the modern grain films I've tried (Tmax, Delta, etc). That's mostly due to using Diafine 90% of the time (a bit of D-76 once in awhile) and frankly Diafine doesn't play well with those films. An old classic grain film like Plus-X, FP4, Fomapan 100 will sing in it though, so I'm happy to use them instead.

William

[LarryD]

TMZ in Diafine looks like mud. I want to soup my next roll in HC-110

Larry

[ImageMaker]

Diafine seems generally not to work very well on T-grain and delta-grain films.  No idea why...

[titrisol]

BUT Rodinal seems to work great

Me guesses it is because of the size distribution of the grains, diafine develops them all more or less equally, and the grain size is the same, thus muddy look.

Diafine seems generally not to work very well on T-grain and delta-grain films.  No idea why...

[r-brian]

That's funny.  I kinda of like TMax 100, EI 160, in Diafine.

This was shot with a FED 3, 35mm Jupiter, with yellow filter



I also like TMax 100 in Rodinal and just developed some 4x5 Tmax 100 with DiXactol.  They look really nice.

Just developed a roll of Foma 100 in DiXactol and got nice green stained negatives.  I thought I read somewhere that Foma has a blue base.  Combine that with light brown stain and I got green.  No DiXactol for Foma.

Brian

[josphy]

Amazing how opinions differ, but I don't like TMX in Diafine at all.  It's the only film I've tried in it that I didn't like.  The grain just got weird.  That was when I had a conventional darkroom.  Not sure how it would look scanned, but I definitely think that makes a difference.

I thought TMX was okay in Rodinal and actually pretty nice in Microdol, but after using one 100' roll of it, I decided I didn't like it enough to go for another.

[LarryD]

TMZ was the worst in Diafine. I wish there was still a High Speed regular grain film like the old Kodak Recording film.

I would post a scan of the TMZ in Diafine at 1200 but I threw it away it was not worth keeping. And it would hardely scan I wet printed a few and after an hour gave up.

Larry