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Author Topic: Kodak Signet 50 - I might love it if I didn't hate it  (Read 564 times)
Todd G
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« on: September 29, 2005, 08:16:54 PM »

Ever had a camera that you couldn't help but hate to love it?

I picked up a Kodak Signet 50 a few months ago.  I'd previously had a Signet 35 that was a nice little gem until the shutter finally gave out.  I'd never actually seen a 50 until I bought this one on the auction site.

This thing is a real piece of work.  To me it looks like a 1957 vintage prototype for a modern disposable camera.  Just about everything that can be made of plastic is.  Most of the body, the lens barrel, much of the innards.  The shutter itself is metal and the lens is glass.  The shutter release is a flat plastic tab that sticks out in front and looks and feels flimsy enough that it gives real concern that it might break off any time you trip the shutter.  This is not semi-rugged bakelite, but genuine 1950s plastic.  No rangefinder, just a scale focus, though it does have a nice bright line frame finder.  The top and bottom plates are metal, sort of.  Two pieces of aluminum that if they were any thinner could be considered as heavy aluminum foil.

It does have a built in light meter.  But using it is a joy.  You've got to read the EV reading off the meter on top, then transfer that to a scale on the bottom front of the lens.  So you've got to look the camera right in the eye to see the scale, which was thoughtfully printed in red, and after 45+ years has faded to near invisibility.  The shutter speed dial and aperture ring are lock stepped together so that once you do get the EV set, then you can just switch settings for faster shutter speed - up to a blazing 1/250th, or greater depth of field.  But to bracket exposures you've got to press back on the inner ring to change the settings away from the matched ones on the shutter speed.

But as long as your looking into the front of the camera to set the exposure you can also check the frame counter, 'cause it's on the very bottom front.  I have to wonder how many owners ended up with unintentional closeup shots of their own foreheads.

The midget flash bulb unit that came with it is likewise almost entirely of plastic.  Even the parabolic reflector is plastic, which cracked in this one's case.

According to McKeown's Kodak sold these for $82 new in 1957-1960.  A basic screwmount Leica was only about twice that and an Argus C3 was about half that.  Except the Argus was more rugged, had a rangefinder, was actually more convenient to use, uglier to look at maybe, but had a lens that was at least as sharp, and probably sharper than the Signet 50.  How Kodak sold any Signet 50's is either a testament to their sales staff's abilities or their customer's gullibility.

I ran a roll of Agfa Pan 100 through mine last April and though I developed the film right away, I've never gotten around to printing any of the shots or even scanning them until now.  I've got to reluctantly admit that I'm kind of impressed with the negatives.  No, not super sharp, though they do seem contrasty enough.  Negs made with my Ricoh 300 of similar vintage would blow them away.  But those made with the Signet 50 have some kind of a pleasantly vintage charm quality to them.  Though this charm element probably wasn't the intention of the camera's designers who went out of their way to make a camera that was as 1950s space-age style glitzy in appearance, but made as cheaply as they could.  But then the charm quality could be captured easier with the larger negative of a Brownie Hawkeye that only cost $7 at the time - ironically about what I paid for my Signet 50 last spring, plus postage.



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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2005, 08:53:27 PM »

Todd, that second shot is going places. I like it well enough.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2005, 09:29:57 PM »

Looks like folks might have been happier with a Pony 135 Model C, which was available (without the flash unit) for less than half the money at the same time.  Prettier than an Argus brick, but without a rangefinder; the lens is better than a Cintar, IMO, but the brittle bakelight body is almost guaranteed to chip or crack or just shatter if the camera is ever dropped.  Oh, and the Pony 135 has an automatic loading that puts some 21st century point-and-shoot cameras to shame -- drop in the cassette and push the rewind knob down to engage, pull the leader out to the mark over the takeup spool, and close the door; when you flip the advance release and wind, it catches the film automatically and starts taking up, 100% of the time.

Interesting, though -- the Signet 50, Brownie Hawkeye, and Pony 135 Model C are all about the same price, now...
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2005, 03:10:02 AM »

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Ever had a camera that you couldn't help but hate to love it?

I forgot to remember to forget my very first camera ever, a Kodak Bantam Colorsnap something-or-other, which I believe was a British production despite the spelling and anyway was a meterless, RF-less plastic wonder that took 828 film.

But it was pretty good plastic, or perhaps my ten-year-old (?) self was so overwhelmed by the idea of actually possessing a camera that I coddled it effectively. Whatever the reason, I certainly coddled it, and nothing broke or even wore down. I took a very small number of very boring postcardy photos, using an exposure meter and on slow Kodachrome. Boringness aside, the results were surprisingly good. (Good 828 slides "blow away" good 35mm ones, heh heh.) Well, max aperture was probably something like f5.6; lens design shouldn't have been difficult.

If I chanced upon a stash of 828 film and one of these cameras, free, I'd try again; but I don't think I'd spend money on one.
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