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Julio1fer
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« on: February 22, 2008, 05:30:53 PM »

I like the edge effect:



Do you have a favorite trick to get an image that looks like a carbon drawing?

Please feel free to experiment with the color image (Pen EE-3, Fuji 100) and to post variations. The objective is to get something that looks as if drawn by hand with a carbon stick.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 07:47:58 PM »

Looks neat!
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 05:28:40 AM »

Julio, I spent a while trying to duplicate or best what you did, using the Paint Shop Pro scripts for pencil and charcoal, varying the contrast levels, changing colours before running scripts, selectively darkening and lightening the background, the faces, etc., noising, de-noising, sharpening, blurring,and probably more I can't remember.  But I did not get a version as pleasant as yours.  What did you use?

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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 06:44:18 AM »

Nicely done, Julio.  I'm guessing that the solarization tool was fundamental.
Here are a couple examples from my web site:


(desaturated and solarized)


(negative image and a little feathering of the border with eraser tool)

I just picked up a good source of ideas from the library on this subject: The Art of Enhanced Photography by James Luciana and Judith Watts.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 07:23:39 AM »

I am using an image processing program that came with my old Genius flatbed scanner. It is called Presto! Image Folio. This program has a tool called "Find Edge" (it is a filter):



I applied the tool after converting to graylevels (256 levels). The result is something like this:



After that it's just correcting densities (i.e. the histogram, extremes and centerpoint).

Image Folio is a very basic tool, so this should be available in more advanced programs as well. I know I have done this with GIMP, but unfortunately don't have now a configuration available to recall the exact command sequence.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 08:17:44 AM »

Julio, in the interest of giving it a try I gave it a try. : )

I tried, again, a variety of tools in Paint Shop Pro. I started, at your suggestion, with an edge-finder (a colour one rather than a monochrome one) and softened some of the strongest lines.  I successively desaturated, softened, warmed, "Clarified" (a PSP tool that changes local tonal relationships), and cloned some specific bits (like the faces, necklace and parts of the man's coat) back in from the colour edge version.  I tried reducing noise at one point and that introduced a lot of those cross-hatchey bits especially in the lower half.  I burned in some parts (the man's coat and the four corners).  I liked the smudgey, dirty look I was getting, as if the print had been stored in a damp cupboard for twenty years.  I brought up the tones again (warming slightly) and tried some selective sharpening and softening.  
This is the result:



I still like yours better!  Among other things, mine suffers from too much cross-hatchy stuff and too much latter-step softening (which gives it a patchiness like looking at it through wet glass).
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 09:14:34 AM »

Hey, that's very good! You got the hard lines softened in a nice natural way.

I'm going to work a little bit by hand on my version and then have a print made, so I can evaluate this idea.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 11:21:29 AM »

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I am using an image processing program that came with my old Genius flatbed scanner. It is called Presto! Image Folio. This program has a tool called "Find Edge" (it is a filter): ...


Right.  Photoshop has a "Find Edges" filter which produces a result similar to yours.  The tricky part after that is adjusting the gray tones and introducing some texture.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 11:25:11 AM »

Good thread.

Hello Mike!
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 11:38:17 AM »

Found a 'button' on MGI Photosuite that said "emboss"
Kinda neat effect.
 
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 07:52:58 PM »

Mike,

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The tricky part after that is adjusting the gray tones and introducing some texture.


No tricks! I adjusted density by moving the limits of the histogram to the actual ranges, and then moving the midpoint to somewhere I get the grays I want. This is before:



and after moving the histogram limits and center:



The end result is similar to the one posted at the beginning of the thread. I did not add texture, it comes from the film grain (I believe). You do get some posterization doing this but it does not matter much.
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