F-4s In Motion

[Ronald Bishop]

Out in a Wadi near Cairo Egypt  1982
The plane at distance ran off the runway and buried the landing gear on one side. There was a crew of sweepers sweeping sand off the runway so they wre called in to assist.
There were 15/20 men and they lifted the plane back on the runway by hand. When it was taking off it looked like a giant dust cloud.
Taken with a Minolta Weathermatic 110

[titrisol]

cool pics... but that is no F4; looks more like a Mig17

[amirko]

cool pics... but that is no F4; looks more like a Mig17

MIG-15UTI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MIG-15UTI-hatzerim-2.jpg

[Mike Kovacs]

Love how those early MiGs (and the F-86) are basically a jet engine with wings

[amirko]

Love how those early MiGs (and the F-86) are basically a jet engine with wings

By 1946, Soviet designers were finding it impossible to perfect the German-designed HeS-011 axial-flow jet engine, and new airframe designs from Mikoyan were threatening to outstrip development of the engines to power them. Soviet aviation minister Mikhail Khrunichev and aircraft designer A. S. Yakovlev suggested to Premier Joseph Stalin the USSR buy advanced jet engines from the British. Stalin is said to have replied, "What fool will sell us his secrets?"[6]
However, he gave his consent to the proposal and Mikoyan, engine designer Vladimir Klimov, and others travelled to the United Kingdom to request the engines. To Stalin's amazement, the British Labour government and its pro-Soviet Minister of Trade, Sir Stafford Cripps, were perfectly willing to provide technical information and a license to manufacture the Rolls-Royce Nene. This engine was reverse-engineered and produced as the Klimov RD-45, subsequently incorporated into the MiG-15.[6] Rolls-Royce later attempted to claim £207 million in license fees, without success.

(from Wiki)

[Mike Kovacs]

darned Ruskies LOL

[Ronald Bishop]

Shows you whut I knows about areoplanes? I know one thing though, they were loud and abnoxious.
    They were student pilots and had to keep within visual of the airfield.

[titrisol]

Yep, things like that happened a lot....
and they keep hapenning like the transfer of nuclear technologyu to Pakistan in the 70s and so on and on and on

Love how those early MiGs (and the F-86) are basically a jet engine with wings

By 1946, Soviet designers were finding it impossible to perfect the German-designed HeS-011 axial-flow jet engine, and new airframe designs from Mikoyan were threatening to outstrip development of the engines to power them. Soviet aviation minister Mikhail Khrunichev and aircraft designer A. S. Yakovlev suggested to Premier Joseph Stalin the USSR buy advanced jet engines from the British. Stalin is said to have replied, "What fool will sell us his secrets?"[6]
However, he gave his consent to the proposal and Mikoyan, engine designer Vladimir Klimov, and others travelled to the United Kingdom to request the engines. To Stalin's amazement, the British Labour government and its pro-Soviet Minister of Trade, Sir Stafford Cripps, were perfectly willing to provide technical information and a license to manufacture the Rolls-Royce Nene. This engine was reverse-engineered and produced as the Klimov RD-45, subsequently incorporated into the MiG-15.[6] Rolls-Royce later attempted to claim £207 million in license fees, without success.

(from Wiki)

[jake]

Diplomacy with food is always more successful than diplomacy with weapons.